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Live View Golf makes real-time swing analysis possible anywhere

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10 years ago

Oct 8, 2016

The golf instructional space is historically overcrowded, and the golf app market is rapidly becoming more congested. So for something from either arena to get our attention, it has to both bring something new to the table and present verifiable game-improvement capabilities.

Live View Golf is a portable camera and app suite that offers users the ability to view their swings in real time on their cell phones or tablets with the aid of plane lines and other markers.

Presently, arriving at a live video feed of your golf swing (with plane lines, etc.) is an expensive and complicated process, and one that’s difficult to set up on the driving range. Live video, viewable when a golfer is in posture or in position, can be a critical factor in ingraining new swing moves and checking positions in a slow-motion swing rehearsal.

Also, other solutions, like having a friend shoot cell phone video of your swing, obviously only allows you to to see a recording of the swing you just made.

We spoke with Shane Yang, founder of the company, about Live View’s development and the importance of live video feedback in training.

Shane told us the initial concept for Live View Golf came to him after taking his children for lessons with renowned instructor, Patrick Parrish. He was looking for a way to improve retention, simplify and accelerate the learning process and began thinking his children would benefit from a “look” associated with the “feel” they were striving after. In other words, live video (with the ability to draw lines, circles, etc) on the driving range (or wherever you want to practice).

Parrish, a 30-year teaching veteran in the California area, bought into the concept, and Yang—who conveniently has a background in cameras and optics—and company launched a Kickstarter in December of 2015 to produce an initial iteration of the device.

Dave Phillips from the Titleist Performance Institute, himself a vocal proponent for the use of live video in practice, recently joined LiveView as an advisory board member. Yang told us the response from the professional community has been overwhelming, with new advisory member announcements to come ahead of further improvements to the existing technology.

The Live View Golf app is free to download. The camera (the specs for which you can see here) retails for $179.99.

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Ben Alberstadt is the Editor-in-Chief at GolfWRX, where he’s led editorial direction and gear coverage since 2018. He first joined the site as a freelance writer in 2012 after years spent working in pro shops and bag rooms at both public and private golf courses, experiences that laid the foundation for his deep knowledge of equipment and all facets of this maddening game. Based in Philadelphia, Ben’s byline has also appeared on PGATour.com, Bleacher Report...and across numerous PGA DFS and fantasy golf platforms. Off the course, Ben is a committed cat rescuer and, of course, a passionate Philadelphia sports fan. Follow him on Instagram @benalberstadt.

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Steven

Oct 13, 2016 at 2:17 pm

Another interesting development in Golf. Definitely worth a look.

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Sean

Oct 10, 2016 at 2:26 pm

I’d like to see a similar app that uses your iPhone’s camera; so I can carry one less device. I’ve tried a couple of apps (Rshutter & Camera Plus for iOS), but would like one tailored for golf practice. I also prefer not to use a camera on an alignment stick; if it’s breezy the camera sways in the wind.

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- Live View Golf
  
  Oct 10, 2016 at 5:29 pm
  
  The nature of down line and even front facing video makes it difficult to use your phone to take video and see it at the same time. Imagine setting up your phone down the line and trying to check your posture on that phone at the same time. You would have to look back to a very small screen placed 6-8 feet away to accomplish that. A great app that does something kind of like this is Swing Profile that records your swing and plays it back in slow motion automatically. the down side is you have to keep running back to the phone to see what happened and you loose the real time tactile feedback of seeing and correcting your swing on the spot.
  
  And if you do not like the alignment stick, you can use the LivePod tripod adapter for a more stable mount of the camera in windy conditions. No matter what tools or apps you use, #practiceperfectly.
  
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Live View Golf

Oct 8, 2016 at 6:21 pm

There is a long thread in the WRX forums discussing the differences vs. mirrors. http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1378936-mirrors-are-so-2015/ In a nutshell, the Live View Golf system is designed to be compact and easily portable for use at the range or anywhere else. Add in the ability to insert very precise alignment tools for live practice, the ability to monitor your swing more easily in front facing and downline view, and also recording to analyze slow motion using the record and playback functionality, and Live View Golf integrates most of the modern swing analysis and practice tools into a simple and compact package.

The Live View Golf Design goal was set at 20FPS to minimize the lag between action and video feedback for optimum learning during live practice. The shorter the visual feedback loop is to the initial action, the easier it is to correct and build strong muscle memory. Please also see our other discussion thread on the WRX forums
http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1362612-live-view-golf-real-time-wireless-swing-camera/

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- Philip
  
  Oct 9, 2016 at 11:06 am
  
  If you choose 20FPS then why didn’t you choose a higher resolution that works better with the display choices? Easy enough to do.
  
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  - Live View Golf
    
    Oct 9, 2016 at 2:02 pm
    
    FPS and resolution work together to increase or decrease the data stream. 640×480 resolution is equal to approx 300,000 pixels of data. At 20 FPS you have to transmit 300,000*20 =6,000,000 pixels per second.
    
    Increasing resolution to 1080p at 1920×1080 = approx 2,000,000 pixels per frame. To increase the resolution to 1080P you would have to drop to 3FPS without increasing the data pipe. To transmit 2,000,000 pixels at 60 FPS would require 120,000,000 pixels per second. 1080p at 60FPS requires 20 x more data.
    
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John

Oct 8, 2016 at 5:10 pm

I bought one a couple of months ago (posted about it in the Instruction forum) and it has quickly become my favorite training tool. I use mirrors and I use high-speed cameras and I like this better than either of those options. If I need to record a high-speed swing, I still use my camera. But that’s not what this is for – this is for watching yourself swing to learn what the right mechanics feel like.

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Scott Nichol

Oct 8, 2016 at 1:24 pm

How about a mirror?

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- someone
  
  Oct 11, 2016 at 5:41 pm
  
  how compact of a mirror are we talking about that’s mobile enough to take to the range?
  
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Bert

Oct 8, 2016 at 9:46 am

Interesting and well priced. One question, how many frames per second?

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