21 Comments

1. 

   That Bob Guy

   Feb 29, 2016 at 8:12 am

   I’m a little concerned with the playability of the V-sole. My concern is the V-sole raising the leading edge of the club, and it’s effect on the strike. Will a forward shaft lean be required to negate this effect, or is my thinking wrong?

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2. 

   Ike Leverone

   Aug 31, 2015 at 1:08 pm

   The higher MOI head design is designed with a shallower profile to promote easier launch. A fast and powerful HT1770 maraging steel face creates a larger sweet spot for increased consistency and distance from the fairway or off the tee.

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3. 

   christian

   Aug 21, 2015 at 3:57 am

   Srixons sister brand XXIO, have had this counterbalanced tech available in the JDM market for a while now.

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   Tim

   Aug 19, 2015 at 9:27 pm

   What I’m waiting for is the comments on the non-standard .362″ shaft tip diameter for the irons and hybrids. So much for being able to easily re-shaft if desired. It doesn’t mention if this is a taper tip design or a parallel tip design, but either way nothing else is going to fit easily. Wilson finally gave up on their Fat Shaft concept, despite a larger diameter being more stucturally stable, simply to take advantage of more shaft availability.

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     christian

     Aug 21, 2015 at 3:53 am

     Did they promise the clubs are going to be easy to re-shaft?

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5. 

   duffer888

   Aug 19, 2015 at 11:46 am

   Not real impressed with the line, but the driver should be a must try for peeps that play drivers shorter than 45″. Put a non-counterbalance shaft in there at 44.5-44.0 and it should SW around D5-D3 depending on shaft weight. No need for lead tape or hot melt!

   Also, it seems to me that adjustable hosel is quite heavy. For comparisons, a Ping G30 head specs at 206g, D3 SW at 45.75″ with a 55g shaft.

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     Tim

     Aug 19, 2015 at 9:19 pm

     Just going to suggest that the extra weight is likely not from the hosel. Their other adjustable hosel drivers don’t seem out of line with other manufacturer’s models or seem to have any additional weight. More likely the extra weight is simply in a thicker sole or in some sort of internal weighting scheme cast into the sole. The extra weight does make some sense from a Physics perspective, in that a heaver mass will provide more energy right up to the point where it starts costing clubhead speed. They’ve likely found a law of diminishing returns, where reducing the weight doesn’t result in a corresponding increase in speed (the club is no longer the limiting factor in speed, but rather all the other moving parts of the swing become the limiters). Also, increasing the weight is an easy way to increase MOI, although a few grams likely doesn’t help that much. What it might also be helping is tempo and more center strikes, which is far more helpful in distance than speed. The D8 swingweight seems to indicate there’s not a lot of counterbalancing going on here. If the length were shortened to 44.5″ with the stock shaft, and assuming something like 4 points/half inch instead of the “standard” 3 points/half inch to account for some counterbalancing, we’d be looking at D4 at 44.5 or D0 at 44″, with some swingweight likely being recoverable by a lightweight grip

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     christian

     Aug 20, 2015 at 2:34 pm

     Did you even read the article, they DELIBERATELY made the head heavier, it’s part of the whole concept of this line. They use the same hosel on their other lines where the heads weigh under 200 grams.

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6. 

   Chuck

   Aug 18, 2015 at 11:00 pm

   I ask; based on a picture alone… Is there a better-looking driver anywhere in production right now, than that Srixon? Black head, stainless face. THAT is what a driver is supposed to look like.

   I hope one of the big shops near me in Michigan (Carl’s Golfland or Miles of Golf) will have one to demo.

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7. 

   Alex T

   Aug 18, 2015 at 2:52 pm

   I love the look of the driver but here’s my issue: despite being 6″1 I really struggle with hitting anything longer than 44.5″ out of the middle of the club. My current driver is 44.25″. I totally understand the whole “heavier head, higher balance point, more distance” thing, but I can’t imagine the driver being less than 45″ (in all likelihood it will be 45.5″-46″) stock length. My question is this: how drastically will chopping 1.5″-ish off the butt of a counterbalanced shaft affect the swing weight? Or does that defeat the point of the whole counterbalanced driver thing?

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     tbone

     Aug 18, 2015 at 3:38 pm

     The specs in the article above state 45″

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       Alex T

       Aug 18, 2015 at 3:49 pm

       Yeah, sadly I noticed that the second I posted my comment. Should have read it a little closer. My mistake, but my question stands simply out of curiousity- how does trimming affect counterbalancing?

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         Tim

         Aug 19, 2015 at 8:33 pm

         Typically, every 1/2″ of club length changes the swingweight by 3 points. However, with a counterbalanced shaft (more weight in the butt end), it’s likely that this ratio would not be the same. More swingweight reduction should be had by the same amount of length reduction, but how much more I couldn’t say without knowing the weight distribution of this shaft as compared to others. “Counterbalanced” means there’s more weight in the butt, but how much more would be the question. Maybe 4 points for a 1/2″ change in overall length with this type of shaft.

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8. 

   JohnJohn

   Aug 18, 2015 at 12:14 pm

   I would love to try it. I have a brand new Z545 driver sitting in my spare bag. Hit twice w/ impact tape. Has the reg flex KK shaft. I don’t know why I could not hit it, shaft ? Head? Would love to try this with the Miyazaki shaft though.

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9. 

   Quint

   Aug 18, 2015 at 10:15 am

   Here’s my take on the Srixon thing. I absolutely love their products. They have a great tour presence on every professional tour. Here is my issue, they are always in the closet in pro shops or at any retail shop. There is not much marketing in the USA, as there is in Japan. If they were pushed more in the USA, I believe they would be much more competative in the USA marketplace. Cleveland Golf outside of their wedges was the same way. The best thing they had going was the hibore drivers, but they went away from that, and ended up looking like everyone else. Lets go Srixon! Get in the USA average golfer marketplace. You have the tour side covered.

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     Large chris

     Aug 19, 2015 at 2:42 pm

     This ^^^^
     Even when they get a tour win, can you walk in a pro shop and buy the same club on Monday? Absolutely not, compare that to the marketing success of TM the last few years.

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       Quint

       Aug 20, 2015 at 6:40 am

       That’s what I’m talking about! They make some of the best stuff, but you can’t find the product anywhere? I so agree, Chris. I sent Cleveland an email to their customer service department yesterday, saying the same comments. I may not be able to change the world, but maybe a voice can make someone listen at Srixon/Cleveland golf, and get the word out to consumers.

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10. 

    Nolanski

    Aug 18, 2015 at 9:36 am

    Get ready for the uproar about the 44* PW… 3… 2… 1…

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      BeanieTX

      Aug 18, 2015 at 10:12 am

      And the 5° jump down to the 9i

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        Nolanski

        Aug 18, 2015 at 10:58 am

        I have a 10 yard gap between my 40* and 45* irons so the loft gap doesn’t bother me personally. What’s your loft and yardage gap preference?

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        Tim

        Aug 19, 2015 at 9:04 pm

        Nolanski makes a very good point. The traditional 4 degree loft progression was “standardized” a very long time ago, with blade type irons, high spinning balls, and pro level clubhead speeds to get an “acceptable” 10 yard distance gap from that 4 degree loft change. Today’s world with lower CG’s, non-linear spin rates (more spin off the wedges and less proportionally off the driver thanks to multiple core layers) means the loft progression is likely different, especially with non-pro level clubhead speeds. Amateur clubhead speeds result in a lower yardage change/loft change ratio, which is why those with moderate clubhead speeds hit their 5 iron and 4 iron the same distance, or perhaps the 5 even further than the 4 (especially if there’s no tee involved and you look at averages rather than “best case” strikes). I’ve got a set of irons with 5 degree gaps from the PW to the 6 iron, with 4 degree gaps to the 5 and again to the 4. Yardage gaps are just fine, and the more traditional PW means I don’t need a gap wedge as there’s also a 5 degree gap to the SW. Of course, a setup like this would defeat the whole manufacturer’s method of having their 6 irons outperform your existing 6 iron on Demo Day, and many demo irons are now 7’s. Remember when Demo Day irons were always 5 irons? There’s a reason that doesn’t happen anymore, and there’s no chance Demo Day will ever include something like a 4 iron, as someone with an older 4 iron that has more loft would likely find it outperforming the latest demo version. Rather, we’ll have you demo the 4 hybrid, where we can count lower CG to offset the lower loft from a trajectory perspective, and that lower loft to add more distance than your existing 4 iron (disproportionally so thanks to the lower spin rate with the new ball).

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