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Ryder Cup 2025: Crossing to Bethpage – NY state park golf, part 4

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The two teams that will clash in the 2025 Ryder Cup at Bethpage State Park’s Black course still await roster selection. We might even have a player-captain, for the first time since the 1960s. For me, my two-year journey across New York State came to a fitting and enjoyable close the third week of June. As a life-long New York resident (with a few collegiate stints in Ohio, Vermont, and North Carolina), I was justifiably proud of our state park system, especially its golf courses. Friends in other states boast of two or three state-run facilities in their commonwealths; New York boasts over twenty courses. As an adult, living near the flattest of all the state park courses, I knew that other terrains and topographies existed around the state, and I took great delight in visiting them.

In addition to our hometown course, Beaver Island, I had played the five courses at Bethpage, the one at Green Lakes near Syracuse, and the James Baird course near Poughkeepsie. I was able to visit four courses in central New York in 2024, and another four on Long Island this June. A planned trip to the north country, to visit courses along Lake Ontario and the St. Lawrence Seaway, was scuttled last fall by cold weather’s early arrival. Fortunately for me, I was able to collaborate with the superintendents and managers at a number of courses. They provided me with images and intel required to fill that gap in my travels.

On a cheery Sunday morning, we drove south and east toward Binghamton, New York. As we approached the region, a powerful storm blew through, leaving standing water across parts of the course. We were able to play Chenango Valley that day, and we continued on to the Moses Pitch and Putt, Sunken Meadow, Montauk Downs, and Sag Harbor, all on Long Island. When we holed our final putts on the ninth green at Sag Harbor, I took a long breath and thought those bittersweet thoughts of achievement and completion. Achieving the goal was the target, but the completion meant that another task had come to a close. Don’t let me be a downer. Let’s have a nice look at the final four courses in our Crossing to Bethpage series. At the end, I’ll link the other three installments, in case you haven’t yet read them.

Moses Pitch and Putt

Out on Fire Island (a large island if ever there was one) sit the 18 wee holes that make up the Robert Moses Pitch and Putt golf course. The holes extend from around 60 yards to nearly 115 yards. Brilliantly, there is one blind hole, around 13 or 14, that plays around a dogleg if you let it. The heroic play is to go over the trees and at the green. Send a scouting party ahead, to the corner, to ensure that the green is clear.

The Moses utilizes turf mats for its teeing grounds. This is quite logical. Great players are not at the Moses to prep for US Open qualifying, nor to diminish their handicap. If you left the Moses to grass teeing grounds, you’d have basepaths all around, minus the white powder lining. Situated in the dunes of Fire Island, the Moses plays as unlike a links course as you’ll find. Greens receive shots with a hug, not with a kick in the rear as the ball bounds over the green. You can play run-up shots to the flag, but it will take a few holes to acclimate yourself to the amount of bounce.

I’m not 100% certain how large a footprint the Moses takes up, but I am convinced that dozens of communities around New York state would benefit from just such a course. State Park golf is all about the public player, the municipal smacker, and the game grows when the youth have a place like the Moses to play.

Sunken Meadow

Sunken Meadow is due north of Bethpage, on the sound side of Long Island. It compares favorably with the Blue course at the big park. Sunken Meadow is filled with turbulence on its Red and Blue nines. Rises and falls of terrain make the walk a hike. If it’s during the famous heat wave of 2025, as our round was, it’s a bear of a hike. Like the Blue course at Bethpage, Sunken Meadow places sizable emphasis on accurate driving. If you have a case of the lateral slides, you will be in for a long day of pitching sideways and praying for par and bogey saves.

Knowing that we had a 27-hole day ahead, we opted to take our walk at Sunken Meadow. As suggested above, hot days are better for riding, unless you remove half the club in your bag to lighten the load. It wasn’t as taxing as the day we spent at Chambers Bay, but it was reminiscent of the fabled summits at the municipal SeaTac course.

Alfred Tull, architect of the Bethpage Yellow course, put his signature on each of the nines at Sunken Meadow. Tull also made updates to the Blue layout, which explains the similarity of styles between those courses and Sunken Meadow. Tull apparently felt the need to test the golfer with tee balls into upslopes, and well-bunkered greens. Length of holes means nothing on a Tull tract. Tull did provide opportunities for players to learn a course. At Sunken Meadow, for example, tee balls up the left on the 1st holes of Blue and Red nines, find a speed slot that adds 30-40 yards to the drive. Flare your ball to the right, and you’ll approach with 3 more clubs.

Sunken Meadow is as solid a training ground for golfers as one might find. It demands accuracy and length, an ability to recover around the greens, and a keen eye for reading basic, not turbulent, spines and splines across the putting surfaces.

Montauk Downs

The Downs sit soooo far out on Long Island that the layout holds a mythical place in state golf lore. When I was a youth, in the 1980s, the course featured regularly in the early listings of America’s top 100 public golf courses. The Downs holds a place in NYS park golf lore that is matched by one other park: Bethpage. When you play the Downs and Bethpage, you cannot help but not that there is an extra level of staffing, an extra level of course care, that the other park courses must envy. It’s a tricky point to make, so let’s leave it at this: it’s ok to have crown jewels among a collection. The reason for this elevation of Montauk Downs merits investigation.

Robert Trent Jones, senior, is recognized as one of the most prolific golf course architects of the 20th century. He hung a shingle for business and worked in 45 states and 35 countries. 500 layouts are attributed to him and his staff. Incredibly, he was not the original designer of the golf course. The original tract of land was developed by a 1920s investor, who opened the course as a private club. The bones of the Downs lie in prestige and exclusivity. When the investor lost his fortune in the 1929 stock market crash, his hopes to turn Montauk into something else simply vanished. The club remained private into the 1960s, when it retained Trent Jones to redesign the layout.

In 1978, the private club was sold to New York State, which gladly added the Downs to its stable of state park courses. The Parks and Rec department recognized the value of the downs, and reserved for it the amount of attention and upkeep that it merits. The Downs immediately took a place among America’s finest, public-access layouts. As late as 2009, it was ranked second (behind Bethpage Black) in a Golf World Readers’ Choice ballot.

The Downs features many of RTJsr’s favorite touches. The majority of fairways, whether straight or bent, feature drive-zone bunkers on each side. The greens are often pushed up, guarded by sand left and right, and demand an aerial approach shot. At some early point in his architectural career, Trent Jones abandoned the traditional golf links principle of the run-up golf shot as an option, and compelled golfers to hoist their approach shots toward the clouds. The Downs also features twisting, nearly-unreachable par five holes, and greens located at the end of a 270-degree turn around a pond.

With no traffic, Montauk Downs is 48 minutes beyond Southampton. That is, it’s 60-90 minute drive from Shinnecock Hills, depending on the time of day. We paired an early-morning tee time with lunch in Montauk; you could do worse than the Shagwong Tavern, and nine holes at Sag Harbor. After a loop around the Downs, you’ll be glad that you made the trek, but a bit saddened that it’s not the five-course park that is Bethpage. The land is inspiring, confrontational, and ever-changing. It’s no wonder that folks used to emulate the Bethpage sleep-in-your-car method of securing a tee time.

Sag Harbor

It was appropriate that we finished our 700-day pilgrimage over nine holes described by the manager as a People’s course. Sag Harbor sits in a well-to-do section of eastern Long Island; it is anything but a posh retreat. Its architectural history remains a mystery, but it’s clear that the person who laid out the course knew something about strategic golf. No two consecutive holes run in the same direction. For every hole that moves left to right, a counterpart moves right to left. As a result, Sag Harbor offers a solid test of your game while not stressing you out too much.

Sag Harbor is a hand-watered layout. It was kept up by a dedicated group of local volunteers and boasted sand greens for a fair number of years. The property was purchased by the state in the late 1980s, and the Parks and Recreation department officially took over operations a decade later. As a hand-watered layout, Sag Harbor is as fast and firm as nature allows. On the day we played, I eschewed aerial assaults for the ground game. It’s way more fun to play bouncers and rollers, to determine just how accurate my sixth sense is.

You won’t come away from Sag Harbor with photos for the ages, or tales of the most daunting, 2700-yard course around, but you will enjoy every moment that you spend on its fairways. This is a course made for walking, so do your best to duck the cart fee and sling your bag. You’ll go back a century or two, and be the better golfer for it.

That’s a wrap

There’s no better place to finish a series than a locals-mainly place like Sag Harbor. It’s a joint of which the regulars are equal parts proud and possessive. They are glad that you came, but don’t want too many people to know. No sense in overcrowding, after all.

As a lifelong muni-golf kid, I have still had the great fortune to play some of the world’s top ten courses. I appreciated my time there, but my heart always hearkens back to my days at Grover Cleveland and Audubon, near Buffalo, NY. The clacking of metal spikes across parking lots and walkways from my youth still resounds in my auditory memory. I changed my shoes in those same lots and put my golf ball in the sleeve to reserve a spot. Municipal golf is different from club golf, and I appreciate the differences.

There certainly are many muni golfers who could avail themselves of a private club. They prefer the diversity and the unpredictability of a public-access course. I know that I did. As a young man, I walked into untold twosomes and threesomes, happy to fill out the merry band of sojourners who would spend a few hours together, chasing the white ball and the perfect shot. To those lasses and lads, any of the aforementioned state park courses is THEIR country club. It is their home for golf, and it is their safe space.

I wish to thank Kevin Cassidy for assisting in securing tee times. Unlike many other stories and series that I’ve written, that was the extent of the beneficence of New York State. Parks and Rec bows to no one, and everyone pays their way. As a state resident, I’m honored to have this many accessible municipal courses from Niagara to Malone, from Montak to Elmira. In September, the finest of them all will host the Ryder Cup, and I’ll be there to report, one last time.

Crossing to Bethpage Part One: Green Lakes, Beaver Island, James Baird, the Bethpage Five

Crossing to Bethpage Part Two: Soaring Eagles, Chenango Valley, Indian Hills, Bonavista

Crossing to Bethpage Part Three: Battle Island, Dinsmore, Rockland Lake, Saratoga Spa, Springbrook Greens, St. Lawrence, Wellesley Island

Crossing to Bethpage Part Four: You just read it!

Ronald Montesano writes for GolfWRX.com from western New York. He dabbles in coaching golf and teaching Spanish, in addition to scribbling columns on all aspects of golf, from apparel to architecture, from equipment to travel. Follow Ronald on Twitter at @buffalogolfer.

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  1. Sistem Informasi

    Jul 22, 2025 at 10:25 pm

    Why do some golfers prefer public-access courses over private clubs, seeing them as their own “country club” and a space for connection and community?

    Regard Sistem Informasi

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