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Forum Thread of the Day: “Ben Hogan’s 1967 Ryder Cup team pep talk”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from Jagpilotohio who posted a speech that Ben Hogan is believed to have given to his players before the 1967 Ryder Cup, an event which saw the U.S. rout Great Britain by a scoreline of 23½–8½. Here is the unusual call to arms posted in the thread:

Here’s the reaction from some of our members, but make sure to check out the entire thread and have your say on the speech at the link below.

  • KennyP: “Is this legitimate? If so, it’s brilliant. No mention of the pod system, or “investing in the process” back then!”
  • MarkFromTheUk: “Words of a bygone era, when men were men. Golf is full of primadonnas now. You can’t straight talk them, as they all need their egos massaged and be told how amazing they are.”
  • caniac6: “I bet Ben didn’t have advice from a handful of asst. captains.”

Entire Thread: “Ben Hogan’s 1967 Ryder Cup team pep talk”

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8 Comments

  1. Tony Lynam

    Oct 22, 2018 at 8:08 pm

    Those days are long gone. What a shame too.

  2. joro

    Oct 22, 2018 at 1:23 pm

    Ha ha ha, is that true? If so it was brilliant. Very unlike Ben, but do we really know him or what he was thinking all the time. Great stuff.

  3. Cheese

    Oct 22, 2018 at 11:13 am

    Of course this is when it was just GB&I, and they had to add what amounted to club pros to round out their team. It was over before the first shot was hit.

    The fact of the matter is, today’s European players are way, way better than what people give them credit for. Molinari, Fleetwood, Stenson, Rose and Garcia are among the five best ball strikers on the planet. Not a surprise they won.

  4. Jamie

    Oct 20, 2018 at 5:02 pm

    An abundance of hurt feelings if this were said today. Hogan would probably be fined by the Tour somehow.

  5. Robert

    Oct 20, 2018 at 12:58 pm

    This is like something Dan Jenkins would write.
    Love it.

  6. Brad

    Oct 20, 2018 at 6:10 am

    I can believe this is legit and what Ben Hogan really said to the boys back in 67.

    That’s about the sort of thing my High School football would have said to us before a big game. Now, no one has anything real or authentic to say – other than a bunch of politically correct BS.

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In our forums, our members have been discussing the most forgiving wedges on the market. WRXer ‘aaronpoling’ lays out his current setup and what he’s currently considering, saying:

“I am looking at getting new wedges, but looking for a forgiving wedge.

I currently play Ping G25 50°, MD4 54° and 58°. I used to play the CBX2 in the 50°, 54° and 58° and liked them a lot; but like any good dad, my son took them.

I am currently looking Callaway’s CB12 and Cleveland’s CBZ. Anyone have thoughts on these? Or recommendations of other wedges that I should check out?”

And our members have been weighing in with their thoughts and recommendations in response, with one brand coming out emphatically on top.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

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Entire Thread: “Best ‘forgiving’ wedges – GolfWRXers discuss”

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In our forums, our members have been reacting to a WRXer who claims to have built the “worst fitting clubs ever.” ‘dlow206’ recounts his experience with plenty of insightful findings for where he can go better next time in a detailed post, saying:

“Here’s my story of building the worst fitting clubs ever (for me). And my findings of what a better fit is.

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And our members have been sharing their reactions in our forum.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

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  • Stuart_G: “Your process is good – keep at it and trust it.”

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PXG Secret Weapon Version 2 mini driver lands on USGA conforming list – GolfWRXers react

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A second version of PXG’s Secret Weapon has this week landed on the USGA’s conforming list, much to the interest of our members.

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In our forums, our members have been assessing the new version and sharing their thoughts.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

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